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Re: how to setup PAM Kerberose on IDS 10.FC6

Posted By: Nilesh Ozarkar
Date: Wednesday, 9 May 2007, at 11:30 p.m.

In Response To: how to setup PAM Kerberose on IDS 10.FC6 (Jim Cramer)

ids-bounces@iiug.org wrote on 05/09/2007 01:49:46 PM:

> Hi Martin Fuerderer (and anyone else who is kind enough
>
> to help out),
>
> Last Oct, you posted the below note to the ids@iiug list
> about how to setup PAM for Informix IDS server.
>
> I am trying to get PAM working on IDS and need some help.
> I have tried but keep getting this message in online.log:
> "listener-thread: err = -952: oserr = 0: errstr =
>
> jcramer@a-coe002.engr.uiowa.edu: User
>
> (jcramer@a-coe002.engr.uiowa.edu)'s
>
> password is not correct for the database server."
>
> I am using:
> IDS 10.00.FC6
> HP-UX B.11.23 U ia64
>
> 1) I am trying to use pam_krb5 authentication via our Kerberos
> Security Server
>
> 2) I am trying to use IDS in the PAM "Simple Password
> Authentication" pamauth mode
>
> 3) I want to use my existing client's without modification. My
> understanding is that they need modification only when PAM is
> operating in the "Challenge" pamauth mode and that the Krb5
> authentication service does not utilize a Challenge-Response
> behavior. Thus, I assumed that none of my clients will require
> modification in order to use IDS-PAM this way.
>
> Is this assumption correct?

Yes [But, in case of password mode, application should connect explicitly
with password.]

>
> 4) HPUX has an hpux-specific PAM module called pam_hpsec. It's
> man page says
>
> "The use of pam_hpsec is mandatory for services like login, dtlogin,
>
> ftp, remsh/rexec and ssh. It is required that these services stack
>
> this module on the top of the stack above one or more non-optional
>
> modules such as pam_unix, pam_krb5, or pam_ldap. Application writers
>
> and system administrators must consider whether it is appropriate to
>
> use pam_hpsec for any given application. This module is specific to
>
> HP-UX, and the functionality may vary significantly between releases.
>
> Do you know if this is required for IDS, which in my case is the
> "application that they are referring to", in order to use PAM?

No. [although you could use it with IDS if you want to.]

>
> 5) From what little I have found on IDS PAM from the IBM/Informix
> support site, IIUG site, developerWorks, various Informix-related
> blogs, I found one reference which claims that something needs to
> be put in the IDS concsm.cfg file when using PAM. It is in the
> IBM Redbook:
> http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247299.html?Open
>
> on page 250, 2nd paragraph under section 8.5.1.
>
> Is this true??? If so, is there a reference to PAM-specific
> configurations in concsm.cfg. The IDS10 Admin Guide/Ref does
> not have anything about PAM in it's section on this file.
> I have not found any other IDS PAM references to using this file.

No, concsm.cfg is not needed for PAM.
It's needed only if you want to enable password encryption or network
(client/server communication) encryption.

>
> Here is my configuration:
>
> In sqlhosts I have:
> tidsidcard onsoctcp 128.255.17.10 sqltidsidcard
> s=4,pam_serv=(ifmx),pamauth=(password)
>
> In /etc/pam.conf I have:
> ifmx auth required /usr/lib/security/hpux64/libpam_krb5.so.1 debug
>

I don't have Kerberos setup but I tried using libpam_unix.so.1 and it
worked.
Here is my config looks like.

---/etc/pam.conf---
idspam auth required libpam_unix.so.1

---sqlhosts.pam---
ol_nilesho onsoctcp hpia64 999101
s=4,pam_serv=(idspam),pamauth=(password)

Could you try using libpam_unix.so.1 ? cause if that work then problem
could be related to Kerberos setup or libpam_krb5.so.1 module itself.
BTW, what type of client you are using (ESQLC/ODBC/JDBC) ? does that
client version support PAM or not ?

Regards,

- Nilesh -

> Thanks for any assistance that you can provide.
>
> Jim Cramer
> University of Iowa
>
>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

> Hi,
>
> sorry for late reply ... :-(
>
> Following is an example about how to
> do a basic setup. It's a cut&paste from an
> internal www-page that I once created on this
> topic. I hope it is readable and understandable
> anyway:
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> OS Setup for PAM
>
> PAMs typically reside as shared libs in /usr/lib/security. The
> configuration for each PAM is in /etc/pam.conf. On Linux
> however, if directory /etc/pam.d exists, then each module has
> its own configuration file in this directory and /etc/pam.conf
> is ignored.
>
> The following example illustrates a possible configuration
> for a single PAM:
>
> The service name of the PAM is "pam_chal"
> and the shared library implementing it is
> /usr/lib/security/pam_chal.so. The configuration for this
> PAM service consists of the following two lines:
>
> pam_chal <TAB> auth required <TAB> /usr/lib/security/pam_chal.so
> pam_chal <TAB> account required <TAB> /usr/lib/security/pam_chal.so
>
> where <TAB> denotes a tab character. This may be necessary,
> since it could be possible that the middle parameter in
> the line consists of only one token, which might confuse
> the parser when reading the configuration. These two lines
> are in /etc/pam.conf. On Linux, if the directory /etc/pam.d
> exists, they should be placed in file /etc/pam.d/pam_chal.
>
> IDS Setup for PAM
>
> To make a specific IDS server name PAM-enabled, a new set of
> additional parameters is used in the sqlhosts file for this
> server name. The parameters are:
>
> s=4,pam_serv=(...),pamauth=(...)
>
> Example 1:
>
> mfu1_pam ontlitcp onbarfix s=4,pam_serv=(pam_chal),pamauth=(challenge)
>
> This line in the sqlhosts file will setup the server name
> mfu1_pam to use the PAM with the service name pam_chal. The
> authentication mode for this server name will be challenge,
> so clients connecting to this servername must be prepared
> to handle a PAM challenge.
>
> Example 2:
>
> mfu1_pam ontlitcp onbarfix s=4,pam_serv=(other),pamauth=(password)
>
> This line in the sqlhosts file will setup the server name
> mfu1_pam to use the PAM with the service name other which
> usually is implemented by the system provided PAM module
> pam_unix.so. The authentication mode for this server name
> will be password, so clients connecting to this servername
> must be prepared to provide the password with the connection
> request. Implicit connections will be rejected.
> --------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Regards,
> Martin
> --
> Martin Fuerderer
> IBM Informix Development Munich, Germany
>
>
>
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