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Re: The units keyword

Posted By: Jonathan Leffler
Date: Wednesday, 18 May 2005, at 1:16 p.m.

In Response To: The units keyword (John Bejarano )

"John Bejarano " <jbejarano@sbcglobal.net> wrote on 05/17/2005 01:49:28
PM:
> Currently in the process of converting some SQL from
> SQL Server to Informix (yay!). In one place we're
> inserting the current time plus an offset. Before it
> was:
>
> getutcdate() + (?/86400.0)
>
> I was pretty sure that the following would fail and it did:
>
> current year to fraction(3) + (?/86400.0)
>
> However, I figured the workaround would be this, but
> it failed also:
>
> current year to fraction(3) + ? units second
>
> The last one fails with the error message:
>
> 1264: Extra characters at the end of a datetime or
> interval.
>
> There are no other characters after that last
> interval. There's very little about this on google.
> Is this a bug in Informix? If so, is there a
> workaround?
>
> I also tried the following to no avail:
>
> current year to fraction(3) + interval (?) second to
> second
>
> That fails with the error message:
>
> 1261: Too many digits in the first field of datetime
> or interval.

Odd that you didn't continue with interval(?) second to fraction(3)...

If you're using question marks, these are fragments of embedded SQL,
probably in ODBC or JDBC, possibly in ESQL/C - they're not in DB-Access
code, anyway, since there's no way to supply the values for the place
holders in DB-Access.

The construct INTERVAL(...) SECOND TO FRACTION(3) is primarily used for
literals - you are expected to type actual digits in it. It is not a
conversion function. When I tried a version of the code in ESQL/C, I got
error -201, syntax error, on preparing the statement:

stmt = "select current year to fraction(3) +"
" interval(?) second to fraction(3)"
" from informix.systables where tabid = 1";
$ prepare p_xx from $stmt;

(String concatenation in C is wonderful!)


> Plus, though I suspect not, is there any more standard
> way to express date expressions (i.e. from SQL-92),
> that I'm not aware of? Thanks for any help.

I have previously posted some C code (usable with ESQL/C) that converts
intervals to decimals; you need the inverse operation (of converting
decimals to intervals), preferably inside the DBMS.

I can see how I'd do that in SPL - fiddly rather than impossible.

...then the brainstorm - using your original idea as a starting point:

stmt = "select current year to fraction(3),"
" current year to fraction(3) + ? units fraction(3)"
" from informix.systables where tabid = 1";

With appropriate formatting, etc (see code in attachment), I used an
decimal offset of 86403.14159 and got:

Got c: 2005-05-18 16:46:14.011
Got c+d: 2005-05-19 16:46:17.152

(a) My server runs in TZ=UTC0 (offset 7 hours from PDT).
(b) There are 86400 seconds in a day - it wasn't an accidental number.
(c) I expected the server to complain about too many leading digits in
the interval, but it didn't - wahoo!
(d) I'm not sure whether that's truly the documented, expected
behaviour, but it is certainly the desired behaviour.
(e) I didn't experiment using the double value directly - it would
almost certainly work.

I did try - in sqlcmd (equivalent to DB-Access), the notation:

SELECT CURRENT + (912311415133.1231/86400.0) UNITS FRACTION(3)
FROM informix.systables WHERE tabid = 1;

and this worked - and there's no obvious reason why you can't put a
question mark in that expression either. I've not fully explored what
happens with UNITS SECOND instead of FRACTION(3) - it might then work with
integers instead of fractions (superficial testing suggests that integers
are indeed used with UNITS SECOND).

You tried:
> current year to fraction(3) + (?/86400.0)

Use:

current year to fraction(3) + (?/86400.0) UNITS FRACTION(3)

--
Jonathan Leffler (jleffler@us.ibm.com)
STSM, Informix Database Engineering, IBM Information Management Division
4100 Bohannon Drive, Menlo Park, CA 94025
Tel: +1 650-926-6921 Tie-Line: 630-6921
"I don't suffer from insanity; I enjoy every minute of it!"





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<br><font size=2><tt>&quot;John Bejarano &quot; &lt;jbejarano@sbcglobal.net&gt;
wrote on 05/17/2005 01:49:28 PM:<br>
&gt; Currently in the process of converting some SQL from<br>
&gt; SQL Server to Informix (yay!). &nbsp;In one place we're<br>
&gt; inserting the current time plus an offset. &nbsp;Before it<br>
&gt; was:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; getutcdate() + (?/86400.0)<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I was pretty sure that the following would fail and it did:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; current year to fraction(3) + (?/86400.0)<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; However, I figured the workaround would be this, but<br>
&gt; it failed also:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; current year to fraction(3) + ? units second<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; The last one fails with the error message:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; 1264: Extra characters at the end of a datetime or<br>
&gt; interval.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; There are no other characters after that last<br>
&gt; interval. &nbsp;There's very little about this on google. <br>
&gt; Is this a bug in Informix? &nbsp;If so, is there a<br>
&gt; workaround?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I also tried the following to no avail:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; current year to fraction(3) + interval (?) second to<br>
&gt; second<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; That fails with the error message:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; 1261: Too many digits in the first field of datetime<br>
&gt; or interval.<br>
</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>Odd that you didn't continue with interval(?) second
to fraction(3)...</tt></font>
<br>
<br><font size=2><tt>If you're using question marks, these are fragments
of embedded SQL, probably in ODBC or JDBC, possibly in ESQL/C - they're
not in DB-Access code, anyway, since there's no way to supply the values
for the place holders in DB-Access.</tt></font>
<br>
<br><font size=2><tt>The construct INTERVAL(...) SECOND TO FRACTION(3)
is primarily used for literals - you are expected to type actual digits
in it. &nbsp;It is not a conversion function. &nbsp;When I tried a version
of the code in ESQL/C, I got error -201, syntax error, on preparing the
statement:</tt></font>
<br>
<br><font size=2><tt>stmt = &quot;select current year to fraction(3) +&quot;</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>&quot; interval(?) second to fraction(3)&quot;</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>&quot; from informix.systables where tabid = 1&quot;;</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>$ prepare p_xx from $stmt;</tt></font>
<br>
<br><font size=2><tt>(String concatenation in C is wonderful!)</tt></font>
<br>
<br><font size=2><tt><br>
&gt; Plus, though I suspect not, is there any more standard<br>
&gt; way to express date expressions (i.e. from SQL-92),<br>
&gt; that I'm not aware of? &nbsp;Thanks for any help.</tt></font>
<br>
<br><font size=2><tt>I have previously posted some C code (usable with
ESQL/C) that converts intervals to decimals; you need the inverse operation
(of converting decimals to intervals), preferably inside the DBMS.</tt></font>
<br>
<br><font size=2><tt>I can see how I'd do that in SPL - fiddly rather than
impossible.</tt></font>
<br>
<br><font size=2><tt>...then the brainstorm - using your original idea
as a starting point:</tt></font>
<br>
<br><font size=2><tt>stmt = &quot;select current year to fraction(3),&quot;</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>&quot; current year to fraction(3) + ? units fraction(3)&quot;</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>&quot; from informix.systables where tabid = 1&quot;;</tt></font>
<br>
<br><font size=2><tt>With appropriate formatting, etc (see code in attachment),
I used an decimal offset of 86403.14159 and got:</tt></font>
<br>
<br><font size=2><tt>Got c: &nbsp; 2005-05-18 16:46:14.011</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>Got c+d: 2005-05-19 16:46:17.152</tt></font>
<br>
<br><font size=2><tt>(a) My server runs in TZ=UTC0 (offset 7 hours from
PDT).</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>(b) There are 86400 seconds in a day - it wasn't an
accidental number.</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>(c) I expected the server to complain about too many
leading digits in</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>&nbsp; &nbsp; the interval, but it didn't - wahoo!</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>(d) I'm not sure whether that's truly the documented,
expected</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>&nbsp; &nbsp; behaviour, but it is certainly the desired
behaviour.</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>(e) I didn't experiment using the double value directly
- it would</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>&nbsp; &nbsp; almost certainly work.</tt></font>
<br>
<br><font size=2><tt>I did try - in sqlcmd (equivalent to DB-Access), the
notation:</tt></font>
<br>
<br><font size=2><tt>SELECT CURRENT + (912311415133.1231/86400.0) UNITS
FRACTION(3)</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>&nbsp; &nbsp; FROM informix.systables WHERE tabid
= 1;</tt></font>
<br>
<br><font size=2><tt>and this worked - and there's no obvious reason why
you can't put a question mark in that expression either. &nbsp;I've not
fully explored what happens with UNITS SECOND instead of FRACTION(3) -
it might then work with integers instead of fractions (superficial testing
suggests that integers are indeed used with UNITS SECOND).</tt></font>
<br>
<br><font size=2><tt>You tried:</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>&gt; current year to fraction(3) + (?/86400.0)</tt></font>
<br>
<br><font size=2><tt>Use:</tt></font>
<br>
<br><font size=2><tt>current year to fraction(3) + (?/86400.0) UNITS FRACTION(3)</tt></font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">--<br>
Jonathan Leffler (jleffler@us.ibm.com)<br>
STSM, Informix Database Engineering, IBM Information Management Division<br>
4100 Bohannon Drive, Menlo Park, CA 94025<br>
Tel: +1 650-926-6921 &nbsp; Tie-Line: 630-6921<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&quot;I don't suffer from insanity; I enjoy every
minute of it!&quot;</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
</font>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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  • The units keyword
    John Bejarano -- Tuesday, 17 May 2005, at 4:49 p.m.
    • Re: The units keyword
      John Bejarano -- Tuesday, 17 May 2005, at 6:02 p.m.
    • Re: The units keyword
      Jonathan Leffler -- Wednesday, 18 May 2005, at 1:16 p.m.

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