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Re: Physical log size

Posted By: Art Kagel
Date: Wednesday, 19 December 2012, at 9:17 p.m.

In Response To: Physical log size (MARK COLLINS)


So, this one is complex and difficult to explain, but I'll do my best to
lay out what I understand. The physical log message with
RTO_SERVER_RESTART set is telling you that you asked for an N second
recovery time and the small physical log is causing more frequent
checkpoints than are required to guarantee that recovery time. Yes, that
means that actual recovery time is likely to be shorted than you set. The
downside is that the more frequent checkpoints might adversely affect
server performance, especially if the buffer cache is undersized. That's
why the cache size was mentioned. If the cache is large enough that the
vast bulk of your active working set of data is already in memory, then the
write IO of the checkpoints will not be likely to affect query performance
because read IO rates will be very low. So if you have a sufficiently
large cache, the smaller physical log and more frequent checkpoints are not
a problem.

It's the possibility of affecting query performance that prompts the not
"optimal" note.

Yes, turning off RTO_SERVER_RESTART will get rid of that message and revert
to controlling checkpoints using CKPTINTVL, however, you may find a
different message if short term transaction rate spikes cause the server to
guess that the physical log may reach 75% full before the next scheduled

So, what's a large buffer cache? Big enough to keep the entire active
working set of data rows and index nodes in memory at all times is the only
answer I can give. If you know or can guess how big that is, great. If
not, monitoring your server's cache characteristics with the BTR metric,
cache hit percentages, and other indicators will let you figure it out, but
there are elements of trial and error and of experience involved.


Art S. Kagel
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On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 6:49 PM, MARK COLLINS <> wrote:

> IDS 11.50.fc6
> HP-UX 11.31 PA-RISC
> For one of my instances, the online log file includes the following
> messages
> at startup:
> 19:38:04 Performance Advisory: The physical log size is smaller than the
> recommended size for a server configured with RTO_SERVER_RESTART.
> 19:38:04 Results: Fast recovery performance might not be optimal.
> 19:38:04 Action: For best fast recovery performance when
> enabled, increase the physical log size to at least 8800000 KB. For servers
> configured with a large buffer pool, this might not be necessary.
> These messages cause the following questions to come to mind. First, would
> changing the instance to not use RTO_SERVER_RESTART cause these messages to
> disappear? If so, then am I correct in assuming that the server would
> revert
> to using CKPTINTVL for its checkpointing?
> Second, fast recovery performance "might not be optimal", but this implies
> that at least it will not fail. Is that correct? How bad would the
> performance
> be (I know - it depends)?
> Will the server perform checkpoints more frequently because of the
> smaller-than-optimal physical log? I know that it will start a checkpoint
> if
> the physical log crosses a threshhold (75%?), so is this simply telling me
> that the smaller-than-recommended physical log will cause the server to do
> checkpoints more frequently than would normally be required to meet a given
> RTO target? If so, that seems like it would lead to a restart that would
> take
> even less time than the RTO target. If that is the case, it seems like fast
> recovery performance would be even better than what was set in
> RTO_SERVER_RESTART, which doesn't sound like "might not be optimal".
> Finally, the last sentence in the last message - "For servers configured
> with
> a large buffer pool, this might not be necessary" - what qualifies as a
> large
> buffer pool? I know, it depends. But on what does it depend? Large
> relative to
> physical log space? Large relative to logical log space (that doesn't seem
> to
> make sense)? Large compared to some static value (e.g., anything over 6 GB
> of
> buffers)?
> I know from the note in onconfig.std that PHYSFILE should be (size of
> buffers)
> * 1.1, but that note also says "up to about 1 GB)". So, if we have a
> of 3 GB, is that OK?
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Messages In This Thread

  • Physical log size
    MARK COLLINS -- Wednesday, 19 December 2012, at 6:49 p.m.
    • Re: Physical log size
      Art Kagel -- Wednesday, 19 December 2012, at 9:17 p.m.

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