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Re: RE: RE: using ? in "in"

Posted By: Art Kagel
Date: Tuesday, 12 October 2010, at 10:16 a.m.

In Response To: RE: RE: using ? in "in" (Wyza, Jonathon)

Correct.
On Oct 12, 2010 10:00 AM, "Wyza, Jonathon" <wyzaj@bethelcollege.edu> wrote:
> When I delete the file it will then erase the data from the table then as
well
> (it's a true link then, not an import)
>
> Jonathon Wyza
> CX & CBORD System Administrator
> CX Programmer/Analyst
> Administrative Computing
> Bethel College
> (574)-257-3381
> AIM: Iamwyza
> jonathon.wyza@bethelcollege.edu
> ==============================
> SLES 11x64 & IDS 11.50.FC6
>
> "Don't document the problem, fix it."
> - Atli Björgvin Oddsson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Art
> Kagel
> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 8:05 PM
> To: ids@iiug.org
> Subject: Re: RE: using ? in "in" [21631]
>
> Naw, it's simpler than that. The underlying file that an external table
maps
> into the data doesn't actually have to exist, so, all you have to do is
> include a file or run identifier in the file's records and map the table
to a
> wildcard representation of the filename(s). Then multiple jobs can map in
> their own files and in the IN clause sub-query select .... where jobid =
> myjobid. So the external table would be defined as something like:
>
> create external table value_lists (
>
> jobid int,
>
> value_id in
> )
> USING ( FORMAT DELIMITED DELIMITER ''|' ) DATAFILES (
> DISK:/value_files_dir/value_file.%r(1..99999));
>
> Now each job can create a file that has lines like:
> <jobnum>|value1|
> <jobnum>|value2|
> .....
>
> and name the file /value_files_dir/value_file.<jobnum>
>
> and the IN clause looks like:
>
> ..... IN (SELECT value_id FROM value_lists WHERE jobid = <jobnum>)...
>
> After the job completes just delete, move, or rename the job's values file
and
> IDS won't know that it exists anymore. Existing jobs that have the file
open
> will still see its data, but since the records in that file don't contain
the
> other job's jobid they won't see the rows in there anyway.
>
> Art
>
> Art S. Kagel
> Advanced DataTools (www.advancedatatools.com) IIUG Board of Directors
> (art@iiug.org)
>
> Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own opinions
and
> do not reflect on my employer, Advanced DataTools, the IIUG, nor any other

> organization with which I am associated either explicitly, implicitly, or
by
> inference. Neither do those opinions reflect those of other individuals
> affiliated with any entity with which I am affiliated nor those of the
> entities themselves.
>
> On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Wyza, Jonathon
> <wyzaj@bethelcollege.edu>wrote:
>
>> That might work, except it appears that external tables are not
>> capable of being temporary and must have unique system wide names.
>> Since this process has the capability of being run more than once at a
>> time then that could present problems. Beyond that I'd have to make
>> sure it was dropped after the process finished. Obviously i could use
>> a begin_work statement (and thus if the program exited then it would
>> rollback), but then it would log all the work, which i really don't
>> need it to do.
>>
>> Jonathon Wyza
>> CX & CBORD System Administrator
>> CX Programmer/Analyst
>> Administrative Computing
>> Bethel College
>> (574)-257-3381
>> AIM: Iamwyza
>> jonathon.wyza@bethelcollege.edu
>> ==============================
>> SLES 11x64 & IDS 11.50.FC6
>>
>> "Don't document the problem, fix it."
>> - Atli Björgvin Oddsson
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: ids-bounces@iiug.org [ids-bounces@iiug.org] on behalf of John
>> Miller iii [miller3@us.ibm.com]
>> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 6:52 PM
>> To: ids@iiug.org
>> Subject: RE: RE: using ? in "in" [21628]
>>
>> Have you considered external tables? This does require the
>> load/unload=
>>
>> file to be
>> accessible from the database server.
>>
>> John F. Miller III
>> STSM, Embedability Architect
>> miller3@us.ibm.com
>> 503-578-5645
>> IBM Informix Dynamic Server (IDS)
>>
>> ids-bounces@iiug.org wrote on 10/11/2010 01:54:26 PM:
>>
>> > [image removed]
>> >
>> > RE: RE: using ? in "in" [21624]
>> >
>> > Wyza, Jonathon
>> >
>> > to:
>> >
>> > ids
>> >
>> > 10/11/2010 01:54 PM
>> >
>> > Sent by:
>> >
>> > ids-bounces@iiug.org
>> >
>> > Please respond to ids
>> >
>> > True, but it seems faster in perl to do this:
>> >
>> > INSERT INTO temp_table(id) VALUES (list of values that goes to
>> > charac=
>> ter
>> > limit); #run until we run out of values
>> >
>> > Than to do this
>> >
>> > While(list of values)
>> > INSERT INTO temp_table(id) VALUES(value)
>> >
>> > I'd pay good money for the load from file to not be a isql/dbaccess
>> > only thing and to work in DBI.
>> >
>> > Jonathon Wyza
>> > CX & CBORD System Administrator
>> > CX Programmer/Analyst
>> > Administrative Computing
>> > Bethel College
>> > (574)-257-3381
>> > AIM: Iamwyza
>> > jonathon.wyza@bethelcollege.edu
>> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3
>> > D=
>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>> > SLES 11x64 & IDS 11.50.FC6
>> >
>> > "Don't document the problem, fix it."
>> > - Atli Bj=F6rgvin Oddsson
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf
>> > Of=
>> Art
>>
>> > Kagel
>> > Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 4:14 PM
>> > To: ids@iiug.org
>> > Subject: Re: RE: using ? in "in" [21621]
>> >
>> > 64K actually. But putting the list of values into temp table also
>> > sol=
>> ves
>> the
>> > max statement length problem.
>> >
>> > Art
>> > On Oct 11, 2010 3:26 PM, "Wyza, Jonathon" <wyzaj@bethelcollege.edu>
>> wrote:
>> > > Nah, the problem is the limit in the size of the string. I was
>> > > hopi=
>> ng
>> > > to
>> > get
>> > > around the 32k character limit.
>> > >
>> > > Jonathon Wyza
>> > > CX & CBORD System Administrator
>> > > CX Programmer/Analyst
>> > > Administrative Computing
>> > > Bethel College
>> > > (574)-257-3381
>> > > AIM: Iamwyza
>> > > jonathon.wyza@bethelcollege.edu
>> > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>> > > =3D=
>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>> > > SLES 11x64 & IDS 11.50.FC6
>> > >
>> > > "Don't document the problem, fix it."
>> > > - Atli Bj=F6rgvin Oddsson
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf
>> > > =
>> Of
>> > > Walt
>> >
>> > > Hultgren
>> > > Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 3:07 PM
>> > > To: ids@iiug.org
>> > > Subject: Re: using ? in "in" [21617]
>> > >
>> > > If you know the number of values, either by program logic or by
>> > > collecting
>> > and
>> > > scanning user input, you could build the query string with the
>> > > appropriate
>> >
>> > > number of question marks before it's prepared.
>> > >
>> > > Walt.
>> > >
>> > > On Oct 11, 2010, at 2:54 PM, Art Kagel wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> You can but you need one for each item in the list. You can't
>> > >> just=
>>
>> > >> use one ? for the whole list. For a variable length list use a
>> > >> tem=
>> p
>> table.
>> > >>
>> > >> Art
>> > >> On Oct 11, 2010 2:34 PM, "Wyza, Jonathon"
>> > >> <wyzaj@bethelcollege.edu=
>> >
>> > >> wrote:
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