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Re: 9.4 slower than 9.3

Posted By: Steve Willcoxon
Date: Thursday, 9 October 2003, at 2:04 p.m.

In Response To: 9.4 slower than 9.3 (Steve Willcoxon)


How much overhead do B-tree scanners create?
Could it be alot until all indices are cleaned up and then minimal?
What additional work has to be done for the conversion on the fly?
Do only pages which need to be written anyway have the header updated or any
pages read?
For purposes of a test, can something be run to convert everything before
the test?
Steve Willcoxon

Replies to my first 5 responses

To: Mark Scranton
"onmode -BC 1" and "onmode -BC 2" were not issued.

From: Obnoxio Update statistics?
To: Obnoxio Statistics were in the same condition for both 9.3 and 9.4.
All statistics are updated once a week, 1/7th each night.
Are there differences in statistics between 9.3 and 9.4?

To: Gerd Kaluzinski
No temp files are created. Our application is reprocessing a day of OLTP
work from the applications own transaction records. This consists of lots
of inserts and updates almost all accessed with a primary key and virtually
no deletes.

To: Jean-Francois BOUDRY
I will try the same test with the B-tree scanners turned off.
With the B-tree scanners off, does 9.4 run faster than 9.3?

From: Madison Pruet Is there a case on this?
To: Madison Pruet No case on this. Should there be? What would I tell
them?


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Scranton" <mscranto@us.ibm.com>
To: "Steve Willcoxon" <stevew@shubertorg.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: 9.4 slower than 9.3 [2010]


Steve -

This is interesting. Had the "onmode -BC 1" or "onmode -BC 2" been issued
after bringing up the 9.4 engine?

Mark.

Mark Scranton
Principal Consultant/Teacher
IBM Denver

IBM Software Group - Data Management
Office: 303-773-5067
Cell: 303-929-0914
email: mscranto@us.ibm.com
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From: "Gerd Kaluzinski" <gerd.kaluzinski@bytec.de>
To: "Steve Willcoxon" <stevew@shubertorg.com>
Cc: <ids@iiug.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 3:08 AM
Subject: Re: 9.4 slower than 9.3 [2010]


See if your Testscripts use temporary tables. In this case, you should add
one additional "update statistics for xxx" before you select from these
tables.
*********************************

From: "Jean-Francois BOUDRY" <jeanfrancois.boudry@ferma.fr>
To: "Steve Willcoxon" <stevew@shubertorg.com>; <ids@iiug.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 2:58 AM
Subject: RE: 9.4 slower than 9.3 [2010]


Hi,

i also saw that 9.4 is slower than 9.3.

But they are new threds : BTRESS Cleaners. They are started with IDS.

You can stop and start these thread while IDS is online with "onmode -C
<option>" (see in administrator reference guide).

When you stop these threads, performances are goods. I launch these threads
while low activity periods.
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"Steve Willcoxon"
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10/08/2003 02:31
PM






I received the following email showing 9.4 IDS to be slower than 9.3 IDS.
>From many classes and conversations I know 9.4 is faster.

Same hardware, Digital Alpha/Compaq/HP ES40 TRU64 UNIX Ver 5.1B.
Same inhouse software loaded with appropriate 9.3/9.4 libraries.
Same onconfig, same data, nothing else running.

9.30.FC1X6 and 9.40.FC2X1

Can this be a result of the conversion taking place on the fly?

Any ideas on why 9.4 appears to be almost 30% slower?

Thanx in advance,
Steve Willcoxon


Duplex and transactions in the following refers to our application and its
transactions, not Informix transactions.

Subject: 9.4 Informix Test Results

We had Imperial duplex this past Sunday and Monday with both 9.3 and 9.4
Informix. At the time of these tests, the duplex was the only thing
running
on the system. The times listed are from the beginning of the processing
of
the first transaction to the end of processing of the last transaction.
Here are the results:

9.3 Informix:
Sunday duplex - 2hr 41min
Monday duplex - 4hr 41min

9.4 Informix:
Sunday duplex - 3hr 28min
Monday duplex - 5hr 45min

So as you can see the 9.4 Informix took longer to do the same thing.

Sunday - 9.4 took 47min longer
Monday - 9.4 took 1hr 4min longer





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