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RE: Index extents
Posted By: Rajib Sarkar
Date: Wednesday, 20 August 2003, at 11:01 a.m.
In Response To: RE: Index extents (Stephanie_Peltier@txnp.uscourts.gov)
Actually, as someone pointed out ...the size of the extent of the indexes
are calculated based on the first extent of the table ....
I had posted the calculation earlier in the same group long back ... here
it is again ...
Extentsize = Initial Extent Size of Table * ((keysize + 9 bytes (for
detached) or 5 bytes (for attached)) / <table rowsize>)
If it is a Non-Unique Index the Extentsize is reduced by 20% with the
calculation , Extentsize *= 0.8;
The function to return the extentsize returns the MAX(Extentsize, 4 pages).
That's why when you migrate from 7.x --> 9.x suddenly you see much more
space being used ..since this calculation is done for FULLY DETACHED
indexes and in 9.x the indexes are detached by default. That's why when you
do a DBEXPORT/DBIMPORT of a database, it is important to look into the
INITIAL EXTENTSIZE of the table ..if you don't really require a huge
INITIAL EXTENTSIZE it is better to reduce it since the EXTENTSIZE will not
only affect the TABLE extent allocation but the INDEX extent allocation as
well ...:-)
Thanx much,
Rajib Sarkar
Advisory Software Engineer (RAS)
IBM Data Management Group
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Actually, the extent size for indexes is not the same as the table, but is
based on the field size(s) of the columns included in the index. This is
automatically calculated by Informix and cannot be set.
"NormaJean.S...." <NormaJean.Sebastian@tellabs.com>
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Subject: RE: Index extents [1728]
Kevin,
I believe even on detached indices, the extent size while be the same
extent size as the table and all the usual rules apply....
if it can't get the whole extent size (be it 1st extent or next), it
will take what it can get... if it needs more, it'll get another extent.
if it can, it will concatenate extents that are contiguous.....
but I could be wrong (I'm on 7, not 9), it should be in the admin books,
or others may confirm with answers.
Norma Jean
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From: kevinstruckhoff@yahoo.com [mailto:kevinstruckhoff@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 5:24 PM
To: ids@iiug.org; forum.subscriber@iiug.org
Subject: Index extents [1725]
Using IDS 9.30FC2 on an HP-UX 11.0 box.
in creating detached indexes, I have noticed that sometimes the index
has multiple extents in a particular dbspace. For example:
prddwh:'dw_admin'.fl_keylinks 943776
40
prddwh:'dw_admin'.fl_keylinks_n1 139338
8
prddwh:'dw_admin'.fl_keylinks_n1 148623
8
prddwh:'dw_admin'.fl_shipto 943592
24
prddwh:'dw_admin'.fl_shipto_n1 994962
4
prddwh:'dw_admin'.fl_shipto_n1 58472
4
The index 'fl_keylinks_n1' and 'fl_shipto_n1' are split into 2 extents.
I know I can't set the extent size as I can a table.
Is it advantageous to split them up? I'm not sure what logic is used in
determining where and how large the index extent should be. It looks as
though it finds the first available opening in the dbspace and uses it.
If it doesn't all fit there, look for the next available opening.
Hmmm...
TIA,
Kevin Struckhoff
Yamaha Motors U.S.
kevin_struckhoff@yamaha-motor.com
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<br><font size=2 face="Courier New">Kevin,<br>
<br>
I believe even on detached indices, the extent size while be the same<br>
extent size as the table and all the usual rules apply....<br>
if it can't get the whole extent size (be it 1st extent or next), it<br>
will take what it can get... if it needs more, it'll get another
extent.<br>
if it can, it will concatenate extents that are contiguous.....<br>
<br>
but I could be wrong (I'm on 7, not 9), it should be in the admin
books,<br>
or others may confirm with answers.<br>
<br>
Norma Jean<br>
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From: kevinstruckhoff@yahoo.com [mailto:kevinstruckhoff@yahoo.com]<br>
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 5:24 PM<br>
To: ids@iiug.org; forum.subscriber@iiug.org<br>
Subject: Index extents [1725]<br>
<br>
<br>
Using IDS 9.30FC2 on an HP-UX 11.0 box.<br>
<br>
in creating detached indexes, I have noticed that sometimes the index<br>
has multiple extents in a particular dbspace. For example:<br>
<br>
prddwh:'dw_admin'.fl_keylinks
943776 <br>
40<br>
prddwh:'dw_admin'.fl_keylinks_n1
139338
<br>
8<br>
prddwh:'dw_admin'.fl_keylinks_n1
148623
<br>
8<br>
prddwh:'dw_admin'.fl_shipto
943592 <br>
24<br>
prddwh:'dw_admin'.fl_shipto_n1
994962 <br>
4<br>
prddwh:'dw_admin'.fl_shipto_n1
58472 <br>
4<br>
<br>
<br>
The index 'fl_keylinks_n1' and 'fl_shipto_n1' are split into 2 extents.<br>
I know I can't set the extent size as I can a table. <br>
<br>
Is it advantageous to split them up? I'm not sure what logic is used in<br>
determining where and how large the index extent should be. It looks as<br>
though it finds the first available opening in the dbspace and uses it.<br>
If it doesn't all fit there, look for the next available opening.<br>
Hmmm...<br>
<br>
TIA,<br>
<br>
Kevin Struckhoff<br>
Yamaha Motors U.S.<br>
kevin_struckhoff@yamaha-motor.com<br>
<br>
kevin_<br>
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Messages In This Thread
- Index extents
KEVIN STRUCKHOFF -- Tuesday, 19 August 2003, at 6:24 p.m.
- RE: Index extents
NormaJean.Sebastian@tellabs.com -- Wednesday, 20 August 2003, at 8:51 a.m.
- RE: Index extents
Stephanie_Peltier@txnp.uscourts.gov -- Wednesday, 20 August 2003, at 10:12 a.m.
- RE: Index extents
Rajib Sarkar -- Wednesday, 20 August 2003, at 11:01 a.m.
- RE: Index extents
John Carlson -- Wednesday, 20 August 2003, at 9:35 a.m.
- Re: Index extents
ART KAGEL, BLOOMBERG/ 65E 55TH -- Wednesday, 20 August 2003, at 10:43 a.m.
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