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RE: backups

Posted By: NormaJean.Sebastian@tellabs.com
Date:


I've used archecker on IDS 7.3x. I did not use it extensively. A tape
survives only so much read/write activity.... using archecker decreased
the tape's life expectancy (tape may be cheap, but I've worked for small
employers which means everything is expensive).

I use IDS 7.3 with SAP. SAP has a utility called 'sapdba' which does
chunk rename - slick,easy,convenient. Nice to know IDS 9.4 will get me
there too (SAP hasn't sanctioned it yet).

Norma Jean

-----Original Message-----
From: MARTINFU@de.ibm.com [mailto:MARTINFU@de.ibm.com]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 2:53 AM
To: ids@iiug.org; forum.subscriber@iiug.org
Subject: RE: backups [1665]


Hi,

unfortunately you're not telling, which version of IDS you're using.

So here goes my recommendation :

Use IDS 9.40.UC1 or even better 9.40.UC2 :

It has a utility called "archecker" with which archives can be
verified to be correct. It can be used for archives taken with
"ontape" and ON-Bar.

AND

It has a new functionality called "Chunk Rename" feature,
which lets you rename the chunk path names during a
cold restore (also with both, "ontape" and ON-Bar.
You need this to properly restore to a different server on
the same host.

The "Chunk Rename" feature is new in 9.40.UC1.
The "archecker" utility has been around for some time.

If you don't want or can't use 9.40.UC1 or 9.40.UC2, then restore
to a different server on the same machine is almost not possible.
This is "almost", because there's a "trick" to do this, but it's a bit
dirty and thus not recommended.

[ Dirty trick:
Have for both servers all chunk path names defined with
relative path names (rather than absolute path names).
Of course these relative path names must be the same for
each corresponding chunk (between the 2 servers).
To make them distinct, they will reside in different directories,
where these directories will not appear in the relative path
names.
With that the chunk path names will be the same for both
both servers and you can restore on server B the archive
of server A without the "Chunk Rename" feature ...
BUT:
Be sure that for whatever administrative action you're doing
you are in the CORRECT DIRECTORY for this server.
If you're doing something while being accidently in the
WRONG DIRECTORY (i.e. that of the other server), then
you can easily hose that other server, if you're lucky. If
you're unlucky then you've hosed both servers in one go ...

I think that makes clear why this is a "dirty trick" and is
not recommended. It might be OK for testing, where none
of both servers handles production data. Otherwise I
really wouldn't do such things.
]

Regards,
Martin
--
Martin Fuerderer
IBM Informix Development Munich
Data Management Solutions





"Lee Aholima" <lee.aholima@tcdc.govt.nz>
Sent by: forum.subscriber@iiug.org
11.08.2003 06:39


To: ids@iiug.org
cc:
Subject: RE: backups [1664]



Hi,

I have a particular question about backups.

Currently we do ontape and we do a backup of the database every night.

However we would like to consider doing backups by some other method =
which
1. allows us to restore into a different server which resides on the =
same unix box.
2. allows us to verify a backup to tape as being okay after we have made
=
the backup.

Any answers would be appreciated.


Lee Aholima,
Database Administrator
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Ph 07 868 6025
Email lee.aholima@tcdc.govt.nz
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  • RE: backups
    Lee Aholima -- Monday, 11 August 2003, at 12:39 a.m.
    • RE: backups
      Martin Fuerderer -- Monday, 11 August 2003, at 3:52 a.m.
      • RE: backups
        NormaJean.Sebastian@tellabs.com -- Monday, 11 August 2003, at 8:20 a.m.

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